Taking this one step further this also supposes that, as the Worth St Line was to serve a similar catchment area as the BMT Centre Street Line (J train) that the new subways through the Lower East Side would replace the Centre St Line, thus leaving it up for abandonment (if this seems too preposterous keep in mind that half of this line is already, for all intents and purposes, abandoned). Same dilemma as if underground. Youve presented an excellent case for ruling out Williamsburg. More complicated than it needs to be. February 10, 2019 12:27pm Mark Mellone A woman was in critical condition after she ended up under a train at the Utica Avenue subway early Sunday morning, cops said. 7. MTA. It has to go BWY7 which means local tracks in Brooklyn. [7] The outer track walls are made of tile and have a maroon trim line with a dark maroon border. Building it to B Division clearances is good but making it B Div from the get-go would be better still. THE IRT IS 3/4 THE SIZE OF THE IND/BMT FOR A REASON. Got to be local? South 4 St Passenger service: Never completed. Then a tunnel would have to be built just outside the station. 7 of NYC's Abandoned Subway Stations: City Hall, 18th St, Worth Street, Myrtle Ave, 91st St 9 of NYC's Abandoned and Incomplete Subway Platforms and Levels 5 of NYC's Never Completed or. Most of the subway system in New York City no longer has that feel . So heres my workup for a design toolkit of el popularizing methods: 1. Granted it eventually meets up with all nine of those services, just not in the big pile-up. The application was approved, and the IRT extension opened on May 1, 1908. challenge. Barring a brand new line paralleling the EPL and Fulton, which wouldnt make sense as long as capacity can still be raised on those lines, the Fulton Street line looks like the only way to ever realize that greater capacity. IF you really wanted to have a branch off of Fulton then the construction would not be as simple as you suggest. In fact, it makes pretty much every stop that the current B46SBS makes except for Winthrop, which IMO is not really deserving of a stop. Delays wont occur because of judges ordering you to change your practices to mitigate pollution or traffic effects. make elevateds palatable again I want everything else done so that it ensures it will work. Again, Worth isnt the best choice, but there are no good choices with an IND style Utica Ave. Not bad. They must be pillar free for security. As for late nights and weekends why not just extend the 6? The Crown Heights-Utica Avenue station is an express station on the IRT Eastern Parkway Line of the New York City Subway. Off-road (Chicago style). That already will cost millions, possibly billions. F,L,M all times except late nights, 1,2. If so, it could be served by alternate runs of the E or as a second express provided a suitable terminal could be found. These look less industrial than plain And that nine has the corresponding capacity of 12 A Division runs. Look at ridership at the Crown Heights-Utica Ave station now. Meaning if the Livonia Yards are overcrowded and a train-related incident happens at Franklin;blocking off service to Manhattan, trains can run between New Lots and Flatbush and/or Kings Plaza and Flatbush. Queens has the big unmet demand; its got the 12th and 25th busiest stations in the system as TERMINALS! (Plans for a Utica Ave. subway in 1969 involved extending the IRT instead of the IND.) Switch the 3/4 so that the 3 still goes to New Lots Av, but the 4 will now go to Flatbush Av. The only relief valve I can see short of the billion+ solution is reverse-branching lower Utica so that some its runs can continue up Nostrand. Existing abandoned portions: Part of a station for 6 tracks, with four island platforms. Its not a great idea but I was going off what I heard. From the South 4th St station to Eastern Parkway is another 3 miles which would parallel the existing J/M/Z trains. Phoenix has one of its very own, and it's haunting in the most beautiful way possible. Some of the old trolley poles are still there! In 2015 Mayor Bill de Blasio even proposed bringing the line back and supposedly the MTA has been studying the plan since. The Crown HeightsUtica Avenue station is an express station on the IRT Eastern Parkway Line of the New York City Subway. [30] In 2015, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced his proposal for an extension of the 3 and 4 trains down Utica Avenue. And D as well if cut-and-cover is used. Viaducts where possible. Touring: F train to East Broadway. The 2004 artwork here is part of a series called Good Morning and Good Night. Perhaps you are discounting the Fulton St. Have higher ceilings and most likely some sort of air cooling system for comfort. Trains are one of the oldest forms of transportation out there, which means abandoned depots are scattered all across the country. Run it through there to the Culver line where it can be the additional service that justifies reopening the express level. Subway to Williamsburg Bridge proposal.. You took the time to write a response but not to read what I wrote? So that means that you are going to build a trunk line that is supposed to take pressure off the L that can only run 10-12tph. They will have wider entries, pathways and platforms so they wont have to be rebuilt to greater capacity later, as is being done to so many of them now. Outside fare control, there is a token booth and two street stairs, each going to either western corners of Utica Avenue and Fulton Street. Wilson Ave. Hmm, cant fit both Triborough RX and the L in the open cut because you need a freight track? Allows handicap access via one elevator instead of three. Crime Statistics (PDF) Crime Statistics (Excel) Contact Information. But the big question for me is what are you going to do about the 5 not running on late nights and weekends? The second is a simple addition of new switches which is what Im going with. Knowing the reality of MTA construction I would argue that the second plan is the preferable option. The two street stairs here lead to either mall of Eastern Parkway west of Utica Avenue. Thanks for listening Vanshnooken! Theres nothing stopping that since it runs at a lower frequency. Double-deck single tracks. Passangers want a train for the East and West Sides.By switching the 3 and 5 youre forcing passangers to make a crossover at Franklin when they could easily just have a one seat ride from Utica or Flatbush Av. I-beams and could be outfitted as faades on older structures as they Though Id suggest building a peak direction track on Utica Similar to the 6 and 7 lines. So feeding more traffic into LEX which is so crowded while it actually misses the work destinations for most of these new riders might not be the best way to go. 31, is a three-track elevated line. Have a design contest; results That leaves the Broadway portion On the opposite side, from Eastern Parkway to Empire Blvd, the slope descends 66 feet. The IRT built their Utica Ave station west of Utica Ave with turnouts in the track walls so that a branch could split. que mangent les gendarmes insectes. Not a Hitch in the Service. The center of the station slopes down and there is a lowered ceiling compared to the rest of the station. Mayor Bill de Blasio has asked the Metropolitan Transportation Authority to examine bringing No. 5. There seems to me to be two sections of this plan: the Worth St-South 4th-Stuyvesant Ave section and the Utica Ave section. from Eastern Parkway to Flatbush Avenue, extending the #4 by four miles. But what Im proposing, and what Im sure no City plan would dare propose, is that the line not run above the center of the avenue such as existing elevated but rather along private land on the west side of the street. This configuration would have other benefits as the riders who are now coming from furthest away have default express trips while the 7th Ave Express-Eastern Parkway Local 2/3 trains can now have more even headways, reducing delays. In your next post, could you talk about a potential Fordham-Ozone Park line served by the 2nd Ave Subway? It will meet up with 6 of the 9 trains going to Atlantic Barclays but earlier. As for the bus Im sure it will go back to being local but if the demand is there for SBS (especially thru Bed Stuy) theres nothing stopping it from remaining. I would have to strongly object to abandoning Phase IV; that still leaves the entire SAS and Sixth Av LES stations without a direct connection to downtown (and thus fails the objective of relieving the Lex), leaves Water St underserved despite heavy employment density, and subjects SAS to the whims of the DeKalb interlocking. [9] Above is a disused portion of a mezzanine and an unfinished upper level station. The first instance I can find of a proposal for Utica comes from a NY Times article in 1913 where residents were debating the best route. Yet youd have it built to B division clearances. Its smarter to do a IRT Utica line because the demand for a Utica Av Line is not in Bed-Stuy and Williamsburg, but in East Flatbush, Flatlands, and Mill Basin. The A/C line in Brooklyn cant be tampered with, because both trains are crowded during rush hours, and the A or C cant be diverted before Broadway Junction, because then at the nearest express station, your going to see a huge crowd, and the point of Broadway Junction is to drop off the passangers to other trains to get home or to get to work. Look at how grades were avoided on the first line, the popping above ground for 125 St and the extreme depth of some of the Washington Heights stations. Given that the L is now the busier of the two lines and needs relief, badly, it would be much more sensible IMO to go east across E 7 St to stations at Tompkins Square Park, Metropolitan/Bedford, Hope/Union (G) (L), Humboldt/Montrose (L), and Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z), to provide a faster alternative to the L. I dont really think theres much value in duplicating Broadway services just because S 4 St exists. Place station house under tracks in median. There is also sporadic 2 and 5 service during rush hours. ; Mayor Declares Subway Open -- Ovations for Parsons and McDonald", "Brooklyn Joyful Over New Subway Celebrates Opening of Extension with Big Parade and a Flow of Oratory An Ode to August Belmont Anonymous Poet Calls Him "the Brownie of the Caisson and Spade" He Talks on Subways", "618 Miles of Track In The Dual System; City Will Have Invested $226,000,000 When Rapid Transit Project Is Completed", "Differ Over Assessment Plans in Transit Projects: Eastern Parkway Subway and Livonia Avenue Extension the Cause of Bitter Dissension Among Property Owners Uptown", "More Interborough Service for Brooklyn 2 New Lines", "Brooklyn Tube Extensions Open: I.R.T. Unlike the Utica Ave stretch, the Flatbush Ave structure would run along the center of the street on a modern concrete viaduct (similar to what the AirTrain uses long Van Wyck Expressway). [14] The line was to be extended along Flatbush Avenue and Eastern Parkway to Buffalo Street as a four-track subway line, and then along East 98th Street and Livonia Avenue to New Lots Avenue as an elevated two-track line, with provisions for the addition of a third track. Subway, local station, ADA accessible (ONLY northbound 6) 59 St. E 60 St and Lexington Ave, E 59 St and Lexington Ave, E 60 St and 3rd Ave. Four side platforms. will be as interesting and more reasonable than those from the genius They will be hardened to survive skyscrapers falling on them and to survive flooding from the next superstorm. RPA proposes extending the line on a gradual diagonal from 25th Street and 11th Avenue to Ninth Avenue and 14th Street, with a Station at 25th/23rd between 11th and 10th Avenues. Last but not least, are the 2 and 3 doing skip stop? Emergency responders rushed to the A/C . Although not in the official report, soon after it was proposed to connect 14th St to Utica Ave. In fact, most of the proposals are costly, when they could instead be replaced with cheaper alternatives. Youve shown plans to underground the Ls el as well as the Fulton and I agree with you that IRT was sized small for a reason, Tyler. no, i only looked at pictures, ill look at post now LOL. Four side platforms. Just an idea! Parkchester on the 6. Freeway-style concrete pillars. Construction commenced on Contract 2 on March 4, 1903. On the Utica Ave. subway, a half-baked idea with no champion written by Benjamin Kabak February 28, 2017 The Utica Ave. subway extension has once again disappeared into the ether of New York City politics. It wont serve all of Utica; just the portion that doesnt have parallel service on Nostrand. The upper platform serves southbound trains, with local tracks to the west and express tracks to the east, and the lower platform serves northbound trains with a similar configuration. and weekends the 5 doesnt go to Brooklyn. What if we could do the outer el portion without the costly subway for now and at least temporarily connect it to a lower cost service? I often speak with other fantasy transit designers about Utica and the IND plan seems to be the favorite and for good reason. Precinct: (718) 735-0611 Community Affairs: (718) 735-0634 Crime Prevention: (718) 735-0658 - Jason Marsman - E-mail: jason.marsman@nypd.org - Kelvin Vidal - E-mail: kelvin.vidal@nypd.org Domestic Violence Officer: (718) 735-0600 - E-mail Youth Coordination Officer: (718) 735-0657 . By SAS standards thatd run to 7 billion. By the way Vanschnooken, I really like your operations-focused outlook; I like that you used your custom track map as a base for all of the ideas you proposed, since tweaking your operations is usually a lot cheaper and effective in the long run. The new IND subway replaced the BMT Fulton Street El. The majority, 27, go to the Lexington Ave. services and with a few additional 4 trains that terminate after downtown Brooklyn the LEX express tracks are totally maxed out. MTA Bus - B14/B17 - Eastern Pkwy & Utica Av. You are correct that the larger option would require shutting down service which is one reason Im in favor of the smaller option. Nostrand is also a major corridor, and demand would be enough for both buses and subway. While those numbers are nothing to scoff at, especially as they have seen over 10% increases in ridership over the last decade, the E train at Jamaica-Parsons sees ridership of over 12 million annually. There are no flaws in this plan. When the booth and turnstile bank are closed, three HEET turnstiles and one exit-only turnstile provide access to/from the entrance. Looking at Census data based on commuting patterns of riders coming from the two zip codes along Utica Ave the primary destination for most riders is downtown Brooklyn with Midtown West second. I, My 6) above, stacking the tracks. Williamsburg in comparison to a Bypass is a much lower priority, since the L is not operating anywhere near signalling capacity; upgrading the power supply gives you a bump from 21TPH to 26TPH, nearly a 25% increase in service, and building tail tracks and appropriate terminals also increases that number. This is the level of transit that buses provide for a fraction of the cost. If the C leaves, the A becomes even more crowded/congested. The storage/layup tracks ends with bumper blocks on both ends, with a switch to the northbound express track on its west end and a switch to the southbound express track on the east end.[8][7]. N,R all times except late nights, W weekdays only, 5 all times except late nights,6. Im not opposed to interlining but given the unique layout of the Rogers Junction the only affordable option is to segregate the services. It was the result of a partnership between the Hopi tribe and a group of Route 66 aficionados who are dedicated to preserving the heritage of this iconic road. See the problem? south of 63rd V from Bypass to Utica via Williamsburg, 15 TPH each. why did you completely destroy the jamaica line, cant we just make a 3/4 line extension? Also with the 5 running past Eastern Pkwy to Kings Plaza, will the B46/B46 SBS still run down Utica Av for the full length or will the SBS be shut down and the B46 local run from the 4/5 train up to Williamsburg? Another elevator from the south mall leads to fare control.[23]. Anyone bemoaning the fact that President St. and Nostrand Ave arent connected? What do you figure the cost of the subway portion of the line to be? The MTA has only been making these small extensions, the last major one (affected more than 3 lines) was in 1967-1968, which changed the BB, T, TT, D, F, JJ, M, MM, and the QT, and added the QJ, B, and KK. What are the closest stations to Utica Avenue? Contents 1 History 2 Station layout 2.1 Unfinished station 2.2 Exits There is also limited rush hour 2 and 5 services here. The gritty, graffiti-ridden New York City subway system is quite a character in Joker. Late nights a shuttle will run from Franklin Av to New Lots Av. The Utica Avenue extension in particular has been proposed several times as part of the New York City Transit Authority's 1968 expansion proposals, in older pre-unification plans, and in the competing pre-unification expansion plans of the Independent Subway System (IND). Abandoned 9th Avenue Subway Station. [18], On November 22, 1920, the first portion of the IRT New Lots Line opened between Utica Avenue and Junius Street opened on November 22, 1920, with shuttle trains operating over this route. There is another part of the IND plan which, as far as I can tell, no one has figured out or brought up yet. Go for a With it both 2/3 trains would only go to Brooklyn College while 5 trains would serve the local stations, Nostrand Ave, Kingston Ave, and Utica Ave before turning south to Kings Plaza, while 4 trains would stay express to Utica Ave and take over service to New Lots. But I think it was for a different one than the four you give. The 9 residences, all located at Avenue M can all be replaced (and with new development replaced 100 times over) while the commercial and industrial buildings would all be replaced by buildings of much higher density and better uses than chop shops. If not too difficult, another phase could be to make the new junction after the existing Utica Avenue station so that, instead of switching between New Lots and Clarendon Road, there be a third switch to the north with an extension up to Utica Avenue and Fulton Street, utilizing the existing shell and completing it, while switching it to an IRT width. Half a political lifetime ago, Bill de Blasio seemed interested in extending transit to under-served neighborhoods on his own. The Independent Subway System (IND or ISS), formerly known as the Independent City-Owned Subway System (ICOSS) or the Independent City-Owned Rapid Transit Railroad (ICORTR), was a rapid transit rail system in New York City that is now part of the New York City Subway. I think I can solve that problem and still have a train servicing East NY&Brownsville, Mill Basin, and Flatbush/East Flatbush. Everything else is a single or double story commercial or light industrial building, parking lot, and one school. Anyone? But you are right, at G/J/M/Z transfer would be best! The elevated structure would be built in such a way that future buildings would be built around and above the line. It would reduce the need for bus transfers. South of Kings Highway, due to the aforementioned geological issues, the line would have to be elevated. Looking into the window reveals a cinder-block wall that were erected to prevent glimpses into the closed portion of the intermediate level mezzanine. Meaning that in order for a IND to run down Utica Av, Utica Av would have to be destroyed and rebuilt around the same area of the 3/4 station. Nice ideas so far! 480-foot B locals are actually 31 feet shorter than IRT local trains yet have more room because theyre wider. There are also some windows in this level. The 5 is already going express and with further station spacing you would still have good run times. Before the renovation of this station in 1995, it was possible to see the unfinished station from the mezzanine. Bubble the reworking there to the top of the list and once done it can do 12 B Div. The Utica Avenue subway would bring new rapid transit service to parts of Crown Heights . Besides, with Utica so far out it would be much better service to have express trains rather than a longer local train. In 2015 Mayor Bill de Blasio even proposed bringing the line back and supposedly the MTA has been studying the plan since. Split track areas. On the New Lots Avenue-bound platform, the track walls have a section of yellow-orange tiles beneath the trim-line and another line of yellow tiles on the bottom of the tiled portions. Renovations added looping maroon tile patterns at the mezzanine level, as well as the platform's floor pattern. The junction is built awkwardly where the tunnels are twisting in such a way to become bi-level. Another weekend or overnight wont kill us! This was built into the station as a provision for the proposed Utica Avenue Line, which is why the station itself has no exits to Utica Avenue. 11. The station opened on August 23, 1920, as part of an extension of the IRT Eastern Parkway Line by the Interborough Rapid Transit Company. Despite his influence as Senate Majority Leader, the Utica Avenue subway may never leave the station. B: I wouldnt worry much about curves coming into terminals. Far simpler with more capacity. Looking at a modern take on IND plan, since the Chrystie St Connection rerouted the 6th Ave express trains over the Manhattan Bridge and the extra local service to Williamsburg, there is no extra capacity along 6th Ave to connect with the new line. I disagree that people can just simply take a bus, but extending the Nostrand Av line south is needed. This would provide more flexibility, even though all the lines that would be connected have transfers to each other at Fulton Street in Manhattan. First, is that, just as with the Second Avenue Subway, anything done would have to be in stages. The other spur would have led up Myrtle Ave. where the line would split again. Flatbush Av-Brooklyn College is 2338 yards away, 28 min walk. [19][20], In 1981, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority listed the station among the 69 most deteriorated stations in the subway system. 127 Utica Avenue Brooklyn, NY, 11213-2338. I never said I disagreed with staging it so that Utica is first built. Noise complaints, and B46 would have to be detoured. What companies run services between Newark Penn Station, NJ, USA and Utica Avenue Station, NY, USA? I grant you C outright; shorter trains being more maneuverable in yards. It is actually located between Schenectady and Utica Avenues and the two exits lead to the middle of the block, several feet from the actual cross street. If you check out the MTA report I sourced for the Rogers Junction rebuild you can see the two options. I do like the general arc of this post, although there is one bit I find a bit questionable; > Looking at a modern take on IND plan, since the Chrystie St Connection rerouted the 6th Ave express trains over the Manhattan Bridge and the extra local service to Williamsburg, there is no extra capacity along 6th Ave to connect with the new line. Spend that 343 million in 9-year-old dollars and where do the additional runs go? While there are arguments to be made for extending the Nostrand Ave Line south I would argue that with the addition of Utica Ave that demand would be reduced as riders coming from the east or southeast would take Utica over a bus to Nostrand. The Utica Avenue station is an express station on the IND Fulton Street Line of the New York City Subway. The S could probably do full-time service from either Euclid Ave or Utica Av to Rockaway Blvd. station count on BWY7 and 8AV between 110th and 72nd. The first is that much of the line, as proposed by both IRT and IND engineers, was to be an elevated line. The New Lots branch of the IRT ascends to the surface right after it leaves Eastern Parkway (due very much to the terrain) and it would make sense that the IRT would have the Utica Line do the same. Or just stay on your train. Other sources indicate that the unused level at Fulton St.s Utica station is not quite perpendicular but slanted 20 degrees or so in the favorable direction. W 34 St and 7th Ave, W 33 St and 7th Ave, W 32 St and 7th Ave. One island platform, two side platforms. I dont really see the need for a peak direction track this far out. But that still requires 2nd Ave to be built first. Eliminating the bottleneck and interlining will improve frequency at Franklin so the transfer wont take too long. The Board of Rapid Transit Commissioners approved the route on September 27, 1900,[6] and the contract was signed on September 11, 1902. 34 St- Penn Station. 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