(Bret Reiter), I call this one a seven too. I'm satisfied with my bamboo fly rod, even though the female metal Ferrule opening was a little big and the male ferrule on the second section would slip out after a few cast. It does not do anything to the action as most of the last 3 inches is inside the ferrule anyway. .266@20 For those of you that have built this rod, does it flex into the beginning of the handle? 0.214 0.248 Nowadays, some guys machine ferrules out of bar stock, and they have a reasonable way to make the openings different sizes on the top and bottom. This rod belonged to rodbuilder Tim Bedford. (Will Price), Dickerson standardized his reel seats with a 3/8's inside diameter bore, hence the .375 under the grip and reel seat. Hardy Fly Fishing Rod Trout Fishing Rods & Poles 8 Guides, Hardy Fly Reel Trout Fishing Reels, Hardy Trout Fishing Rods & Poles, Somehow the "D" was either left off by me in the original posting or was lost in translation to David's site. The line was a Scientific Angler's WF7 in their XXD (distance) format. 45 .216 .375 Parabolic is a marketing term and thus entirely meaningless in discussions on rod design. Except that they are US rated and thus #5's! I think you have fallen into the same trap that so many people do and forgot to realize that Stress Curves are only good for the conditions under which they are derived; change the conditions and you have changed the Curve. It's been my experience that a straight taper can be a very nice rod when designed correctly; for example a 4wt with a tip of 0.068 and a station rise of 0.013. 0.256 Here are the numbers someone else posted earlier this year for the Dickerson 8014 GS. CSE makes and sells this kind of "step-down" ferrule, from tubing, as Dickerson did. 95 0.3435 (Tom Bowden). Besides that, he's extremely knowledgeable about Dickerson, is the present owner of the Dickerson rod shop, and has an extreme reverence for Lyle's creations and tapers. John P. has the Original Dickerson 7612 taper, a very rare rod but John understandably will not share the taper. Mr. Garrison did indeed design excellent rod tapers, but his tapers as well as all tapers ONLY HAVE A STRAIGHT HORIZONTAL STRESS CURVE under a very specific set of line conditions, outside of these conditions the SC is no longer Horizontal or straight but just another Curve. This taper, starting with a .068 tip dimension, makes a great middle distance 8' WF6 or 7-1/2' 5wt. Since it was a know Dickerson Taper and not a myth I set out to recreate how I think Lyle would of done it and it came out sweet. 0.369 To my way of looking at this taper, its definitely an 8 wt. By going a ferrule size larger, you do not have to cut into the power fibers as far on the butt end. I've made at least a dozen Perfectionists (most with a swelled butt so they aren't exactly the same) and all their owners love them. 0.120 I recently sold a rod to a customer blind on the phone. Dickerson 7012 (1954) from "the Lovely Reed". If you are designing a rod based on a linear taper and you want to make it a 3 or 4 piece instead of a 2, how would this be taken into account? All tapers are based solely or partially on the combinations of these basic deviations from the SLT. I always encourage customers to try before they buy. You have a rod with a taper of approximately 0.0028 per inch. It you look at the 8013 it is a 5/6 wt with a tip that's a little stronger than the 7613's but not by much. "Proper amounts" and "correct points" are hardly scientifically precise terms, so I regret that I don't know what you might mean. Variations below this point have more to do with the character of the rod than the line weight. by trouttrapper 06/12/16 09:32, Post Why? Gary - The following taper was taken from a varnished 8013. (Paul Blakley), I think a 7'6'' rod is short for any line weight. Consider this one if your maker plans on using Super Z ferrules. )really love this taper. (Jerry Foster), Where do you get that? (Steve Weiss), That opens up another question. Over the last few days there has been a long thread about rods breaking at the female ferrule. I have made several and all have been well received. Granger. 0.241 a 3 1/2 wt - were that possible. Dickerson 8014 Fred Bears Rod, 2606 -1. 30 .174 .318 Thursday - Saturday, 10am to 4pm. Now you have a rod in the length, line weight and number of section you want. Its the old problem, everyone wants to tell us what they think the answer is, but they never want to tell us why in terms unequivocal and universal! It sounds very interesting. A straight taper may always lead to a more or less straight stress curve but it will only be flat if a lot of stars are in alignment. (Inches) (Inches) Stress Whether you're picking out your very first fly-fishing rod or coming in for a new modern fly reel after years out on the water, Sportsman's Warehouse can supply you with the very best fly-fishing equipment. In fact, I used this taper, hollow built, when taking the FFF casting certification test. Most of the classic rodmakers continually "fudged" their tapers over the years (sometimes unintentionally due to machine and pattern wear, and sometimes deliberately). 0.144 I have always wondered why we don't just build linear tapers. Grayrock 96. Though the course may change sometimes, rivers always reach the sea. I like to look at the taper itself and how it compares to a straight line taper, the stress curve, the tip deflection under loading, the shape the rod assumes under maximum loading, the rod weight and the center of gravity. I have not tried it with an 8 weight but I will as soon as I get back from Texas, ya'll. (Gary Nicholson), I think most rodmakers wouldn't build a rod to sell that they didn't like, but would make one for a customer that they wouldn't use themselves, I know I have. I have thougt of the 8013, as a 5 weight. The tips look essentially the same. Another maker who knows Dickerson tapers very well is Rick Cunningham. Point Dimension (Henry Mitchell), Yes but those 2 particular tapers are what many Dickerson aficionados refer to as the 7613 Guide and are much more comfortable with a 6 wt line than a 5 wt. And, it's true, if you were really screwed and couldn't get a Dickerson, and were absolutely forced to rough it with a Payne, I do think you could manage to get by without shedding too many tears. by avyoung 06/12/16 21:25, Post It also is fine on smaller streams. Spring Creek Four, Bob Summers has built and repaired quality bamboo fly rods since 1956. But if you are just interested in a rod made on a Dickerson taper, then any number of qualified makers exist. Deduct 0.006 from butt, 0.004 from tip. Find great quality fly fishing rods at an affordable price that fits any budget. If you look at the individual changes every five inches, no they are not always .014, but the mean and mode are .014". by softstick 05/09/09 04:36, Post Worked well enough for me to pass the test. Halstead. It could very well be that you could order just as fast a Payne. Any rod with a straight taper under load will feel to a greater or lesser extent, unnecessarily heavy in the tip and too soft in the butt. You can easily introduce straight line tapers as well. Garrison would have like straight line stress/strain results for the same reason Richard Walker did. The Paul Young Perfectionist. 0.350 Thanks for posting the Dickerson 861711 taper. One authority I know claims Jim Payne actually built more fly rods than Orvis. (Frank Stetzer, Hexrod, Taper Archive, Rodmakers Archive), As far as being a Straight horizontal Stress Curve it makes NO difference what the rod is as long as the conditions produce a SHSC. 2 piece. (Lowell Davis), The 8013 is definitely NOT a longer version of the 7613. Dies are not so easy to make that he would have probably have made an entire offset set. I think I can reply for Dennis, as I was one of the guys who measured those rods. I did subtract the .006 when I made mine and I love it as I do every Dickerson taper that I've cast. 0.220 My intention is not to criticize you, but to try to reveal the "big picture" when looking at tapers and stress curves. 0.138 I have had my rod alongside an original and except for mine being new they were identical. Just like the makers of Ping golf clubs, who ban their retailers from selling on the internet, I do not see how it is possible to make a rod for someone without the presence of that person for a considerable time on a casting court. The difference is for a step-down ferrule. (Gary Nicholson). Perhaps it's a European thing to like fast action rods ? Lyle Dickerson's famed taper. As most of you already know Paul Young was notorious for having quite a few different tapers for the same model over the course of his career. In practice most people these days do not take well to these technically correct ideas, preferring a slope to the straight line, giving higher strain levels near the tip, i.e. In terms of rod design I think that it is really worthwhile considering as many design approaches as possible when trying to design and assess tapers. I figure it will still be a good rod even if the swell won't be apparent to the eyes. (Larry Swearingen). (Robin Haywood). It's an Asian knockoff of a Dickerson 7012 4WT 7-0 taper. (Lew) Parks. 2023 American Museum Of Fly Fishing. We will see how it turns out. Good question and I will tell you as soon as I finish my 5wt SLT. 0.102 In other words as the load increased, more of the rod would flex in a liner fashion. 10 0.097 by bluesjay 06/19/16 13:59, Post These are our limited edition models, only released every few years. A rod from John is the next best thing to the real thing. 20 .245 .130 Since the time he was with the Deschutes Rod Co. in Seattle he has built rods with Dickerson tapers. 0.334 0.360 (Jay Hake). Only trouble with the rod is that there aren't many places in Md. I don't disagree with any one here in fact I think you are all correct. 0.138 The line weight standards are simply points in what is really a continuous spectrum. The best reason that I can give you as to why Dickersons are popular tapers (Along with another Michigan maker Paul Young) is that they are nice casting rods and fit our fishing very well. $239.00 + $24.95 shipping (2) Vintage HEDDON PAL Casting Rods - #6277 Wormer 5'6"+ #6273 Musky Special 5' . My original point, with which you took issue, was: I just wanted to make the point that there's a difference between a rod with a straight taper and one with a straight, flat stress curve. I will be bringing it to Korea next trip to go for trout here in the eastern mountains. For example a 13 was really a 13.5? Maybe they were off a little but I have no reason to believe that if his 13 die were 13.5 he would not have marked it thusly. Unknown, so I would hesitate to speculate. 35 .207 .086 They are very nice 5 weights ( IMHO it is THE 8 5 wt). There are many ways to skin this cat. They would be, Heavy butt section, Light butt section, heavy tip, light tip, Parabolic (heavy in the middle) and the hinge (light in the middle). The American Museum of Fly Fishing Collection Station Diameter This is the equivalent of a Powell B-8.70, a bit slower than the Powell B-9. The Dickersons that I've seen were similar. 0.206 Anyway, far too few people concern themselves over what should be the staple obsession of every rodmaker-design. The taper I used was from "The Lovely Reed." Lyle Dickerson Spurred into rodmaking by losing his job in the great depression, Lyle Dickerson would go on to become one of the masters of the craft. I always use Super Z, but I am not really into creating exact reproductions. . (Stephen Dugmore). I have made quite a few Dickerson tapers. I'm off to the antipodes next year, and I'm hoping that the 7'6'' #5 that should be a #4 will go with me. Lyle Dickerson (Michigan) 6-strip Tonkin bamboo Dickerson was a self-taught rodmaker who designed his own rod-milling and planing equipment. And you are of course correct in pointing out that stress numbers means nothing without the particulars of the line weight and length. You bring up a question I have been trying to work through for some time. I think you are being a tad myopic, if you can't see that .016, .014, and .015 AVERAGE OUT to equal .014". by canerodscom 05/09/09 02:32, Post Still looking for a guide to hire for a striper trip to the Bay. I deducted .005 for the varnish. (David Atchison), Wondered if anyone had the taper for the Dickerson 8012 laying around. Regarding the similarities and differences between the 7'6" and 8' Dickerson's. If I were to make it I would use .040 bring the 80" value to .328, this is enough to stop all the rod action. 48 .224 .375, I don't know how Banjo arrived at the measurements under the grip and reel seat. Even if you take off 0.006 for varnish, in case that wasnt done, its still a 7 1/2 wt. The butt was merely an extension pole to keep the tip further from the ground. The swell should start in front of the cork, at least 3" to 5". I don't find the 7'6" length to be too short. 0.111 You could have chosen Tom Fulk's true arc taper as the norm and try to describe the deviations from that. well there is your answer. Yes. Taxes and shipping calculated at checkout, Browse our bamboo fly rods in stock and available now, Browse our collection of reels in stock and available now. Apparently, the 'old masters' were just building fishing rods and not too worried about picking the fly poop out of the pepper. He was known for using only one or two strips from a culm, a time-consuming and expensive way to build rods. 4070 Main Street, I think we can say that adding more material to a tip section would produce more power and reducing material on the tip section will increase accuracy and delicacy of fly presentation. Ya'll, I have built this & I use a 6 weight forward on it. All rights reserved. All he needed to do was speed up the butts, preferably with a concave taper form, and he would really have been cooking with gas! As a general rule, a 12/64 gives you a four weight, a 13/64 a five, 14 or 15 a six. (Mark Wendt), I checked the several places that I usually look for tapers and they all had the swell starting at 80". The last 7613 is a version by Todd Talsma, it is the strongest one a 6/7 wt similar to the 1952 model. I believe he told me he placed his roll casting hinge 10"-15" above the handle, depending on rod length. The thickness of varnish of course was just our guess. I am sure that the step-downs are important in copying the taper design exactly. Has anyone cast both 1949 and 1951 versions of the Dickerson 8013 as described in Howell's book? Lyle Dickerson (1892-1981) has long been known as a pioneer in rodbuilding, due partly to his use of machinery in production but primarily appreciated by fishermen for many of his fast and accurate taper designs. Dickerson R.W. First found in the United States in 2014 in southeastern Pennsylvania, spotted lanternfly has spread rapidly through the eastern states. That said, even this quite powerful taper isn't sufficient to handle large deer hair bass bugs or heavily weighted 2/0 streamers. Yes, there are specific applications for a 7'6" 5wt here in Michigan. I just read this to myself and it's obviously as clear as mud! 80 0.3 Must have been a real thrill to cast Banjos' rod. Nice taper but you may feel the large flex area on long casts with a 8 WF line. I beef up the last 3 inches of the tip to fit the 14/64 male ferrule. This is, of course, wildly unsatisfactory, but all attempts to reduce the problem seem to last for only a short time. Can't remember which is which without looking in the book, but one is lighter than the other. Howell says "they are just different" in his book, but I am looking for something bit more specific. As Stephen points out if you can cast the rods then graph them out you really start to understand how it all comes together. (David Atchison), Didn't Dickerson make his own ferrules and weren't they slightly oversized? If you want a rod that feels like a SLT then you must compensate for the ferrules and varnish and guides by adding the proper amount of bamboo at the correct points on the taper. 0.205 15 .128 .278 (Chris Obuchowski). What species do fish for with your bamboo rods? (Peter Jones), If you "Put some cane back" in the bottom eighteen inches or so of the top joint you will have removed most of my objections. 8ft #5wt. by ShenRods 05/08/09 01:54, Post 35 .188 .332 65 0.2565 Bill said that the book he has written on the subject is going to the printers and should be out soon.. (No financial interest.) Dickerson Rods For Sale Brewer Rods These rods use tried and true taper designs as a starting point. Or, if these are not good tapers for this, any suggestions as to which tapers would be? (Robin Haywood). Harry Boyd ----------- Harry Boyd http://www.canerods.com maker@canerods.com Aransas.clarks Guide Posts: 301 Rod making, restoration, repairs and discussion on those related topics concerning bamboo rods. One of my favorite rods is a linear taper with a "slope" of .290/100". You can build this rod and have a neutral action rod (my term). . Contact us to learn more about how we can help! (Mark Wendt), Was the varnish allowance of .004 already subtracted from the numbers for the 661510, or does it need to be done? However if we can define specific regions (tip, middle, butt) and understand the effect of removing or adding material in these areas. I like Paynes too! It is quite different that the Garrison math method. That's not how they're made, see my previous post, or get a set of old time Leonard, Payne, Dickerson or anyone else's, other than cheep H-I or Montague's which had a necked down female, and measure them, the bamboo opening on both kinds of ferrules is the same on the male as it is on the female. Manchester, VT 05254 I based the statement of one SLT for a line weight on Bob Norwood's tip dimensions. Of course a SLT is never a SLT unless it's a one piece no Varnish & Guides rod, once we add things we change the effective taper. (Greg Reeves), This version appears to me to take a step into account. 0.214 55 0.2275 Do any rod makers sells rods they do not like? 0.168 Its definitely a bigger water rod that the 7613. .288@30 (Bob Norwood). (John Channer), Well, the #13 Payne ferrules that I've mic'd had a female ferrule internal diameter of .203" and the step-down internal diameter of .1875". It's a 7 wt too but being a little shorter is easier on the arm and shoulder due to the shorter lever arm length. This board is for discussing the collecting of bamboo fly rods, both classic and modern. by cwood 05/08/09 02:51, Post In the hands of a good caster, this taper will make a fly line do things that amaze. (John Channer), I have never been able to describe to anyone else how a rod feels to them. Interesting thoughts on line weight and the first 20", I will have to roll that one around in my head for awhile. Inevitably, if part of the strain is caused by rings ferrules and varnish, as it must be, then its resultant effect will detract from the weight of line that rod will cast. 0.248 I do not rule out the possibility of owning a Lyle Dickerson rod one day but, may I ask, if you own or were having a rod made today with a Dickerson taper, If you want a Dickerson - John Pickard is your best choice. And why not? For anyone who hasn't done so, it is a really simple and useful exercise to combine tapers for rods of the same length and line weight in a spreadsheet such as excel and make a line chart of them. 10 0.101 154505 There are several different specs for this taper out there, three of which I use. Conversely, the .202 is at the low end of fit for a 14/64. I would be very interested in hearing what you have to say about the differences between the two tapers. The rest of the shown increase is, in my opinion, just for looks. Fast Dickerson 7613 - 7'6" 2pc (Tom Smithwick), See what Steve says, lots of people (Americans ? (Jerry Foster). This is one of those bio-feedback things you must be self taught IMHO. I'm just curious if you have a procedure to do this compensation on the taper itself or if you do this by stress calculation methods? 25 0.142 158834 All measurements were taken over varnish. I can add that there is not one single straight line taper for each line weight. 0.120 For my money I can think of a couple of rods I like better than anything Dickerson made. (Robin Haywood), This would be very easy, but would impact on other desirable qualities. Chris likes it for Smallmouth on the Shenandoah. : This is a 5 wt line SLT. Both tapers conform to the shape broadly called parabolic and thus will have the shortcomings that all rods of this misconceived taper share. Then the part of the ferrule that fits on the bamboo inside the male slide 'stepped down' to .187" ID, or 12/64. .232@10 Latterly, they considered that a fiberglass butt section would solve all their troubles. We now have solid parameters around which to modify, to refine rod design characteristics. I was contemplating a rod with a 3.5 ft tip section and interchangeable butt sections of maybe 2, 3 and 4 ft lengths. According to Hoagy Carmichael Jr. who filmed a documentary for Boston Public TV, the Payne Rod Co. made approximately 12,000 rods during it's existence. 15 0.115 163502 70 0.261 133729 .278@25 In the local streams we suffer the length to enable some sort of roll cast, but use #4 or #3 lines. 0.334 In the end I don't want to necessarily build a Dickerson 7613. I would say it's a strong 7 wt, but it should work well with a 8 WF. All 5wt with identical terminal tip and butt dimensions. But all right is not a euphemism for excellent. (Harry Boyd). The hatch did not materialize and the fish did not rise, which gave me time to think of such things. As long as a maker includes the correct ferrule drop, Dickerson tapers are no more difficult to make than most others. (Will Price), You can adapt the taper that calls for a step down by putting a slight swell at the male ferrule end of the taper so that a super Z or super Swiss ferrule will work properly. I think the perfectionist is a fine taper and rod. 4 wt 0.0680 75 0.279 126179 (Larry Puckett), If you look at page 104 of the Dickerson book you will see his die set. by mosquito 05/08/09 09:33, Post 40 .200 under grip (Jay Hake), Apparently Dickerson didn't think so. I own a Thramer 6611 and 7012 HB tapers, both with Thramer cosmetics and they are both awesome rods. In fact I've just made a new tip for it as the original developed a kink when being cooked to set off the UHU which no amount of ironing will remove. The top snake guide on the butt has a bit of a bend to it. Made by Top Ten Tapers in Twinsburg, Ohio. faster tapers. The butt has a long flex area from 45"- 75" and a butt swell. The American Museum of Fly Fishing Collection Gift of . The guy turns out to be a top casting instructor. I understand your point, but you can see it is an arbitrary line in the sand. I have been gobs smacked many times when the customer turns around and says I like this one. maybe someone else has one! 25 .160 .308 0.189 (Al Baldauski). (Matthew French), Different rods, the 8014 is a true 6wt, the 8014G (G stands for guide) is a heavier rod, a point and shoot, no false cast, lay out a ton of line type rod. Here are the tapers of the Dickerson 8014GS from the rod Jeff Fultz mic'ed and from Banjo's rod, since I had several requests both on and off list, I'll post here so anyone who wants them can save them. This rod has some meat in the butt section and seems to mend a fair bit of line with ease. 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